The Smart Economy Podcast
The Smart Economy Podcast features interviews with some of the most interesting people within the blockchain industry, working to make the new smart economy a reality.
Recent Episodes
March 12, 2026
From Retail Validators to Wall Street: The Institutional Staking Shift with Laszlo Szabo of Kiln
Laszlo Szabo, co-founder and CEO of Kiln, joins The Smart Economy Podcast to explore how staking has evolved into institutional infrastructure and how on-chain vaults, DeFi, and tokenized RWAs are beginning to intersect. Szabo explains why staking often grows during bear markets, how institutions a…
Feb. 19, 2026
Inside Avalanche’s Tokenization Push: Olivia Vande Woude on RWAs, Institutions, & Real Adoption
Olivia Vande Woude, head of tokenization at Ava Labs, joins The Smart Economy Podcast to discuss RWAs, institutional adoption, distribution economics, and how Avalanche is bringing real assets on-chain.
Jan. 29, 2026
Making Crypto Feel Normal: Zeymer Montes on MOCA, Payments, & UX That Actually Works
Zeymer Montes, founder of MOCA, joins The Smart Economy Podcast to talk about building crypto products that real people can actually use. From gasless payments and QR-code POS systems to smart wallets and encrypted messaging, Montes shares how MOCA is rethinking crypto UX, onboarding merchants, and…
Jan. 15, 2026
Inside Ethereum’s Next Chapter: Tomasz Stańczak on the EF, L2s, & Institutional Adoption
Tomasz Stańczak, Co-Executive Director at the Ethereum Foundation, joins The Smart Economy Podcast to discuss Ethereum’s leadership evolution, L2 strategy, institutional adoption, and how the Foundation is preparing the protocol for its next phase.
Jan. 1, 2026
Smart, Safe, & Gasless: Inside PistachioFi’s Vision for Everyday DeFi
Brian Smocovich, co-founder of PistachioFi, joins host Dylan Grabowski to explore the challenges facing everyday users in Web3 and how a smart wallet can remove friction through security, recovery, and gasless transactions. He shares his journey from TradFi to crypto, why UX remains Ethereum’s bigg…
Dec. 18, 2025
Inside Keel: Solana’s New Liquidity Layer for Credit, RWAs, & Stablecoins
Cian Breathnach, founder of Matariki Labs and contributor to Keel, joins host Dylan Grabowski to break down how Keel intends to become Solana’s capital engine. Breathnach explains the evolution of the Sky ecosystem, why Solana’s high-throughput environment works well with on-chain credit creation, …
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